Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    http://www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    https://www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 781

  • Comedian Marvin Howard
    Comedian Marvin Howard  2 hours back

    Yeah.....Joaquin is a great actor.......but this ain’t Joker. No Red Hood origin. No accident to make him The Joker.

    #NotMyJoker

    • Makena Miller
      Makena Miller  2 hours back

      I loved the jokers acting in Suicide Squad! It was my favorite one Joker. I loved Joker and Harlequin’s acting a whole crap ton in the movie and I don’t get when people hate it.

      • Filip Radojevic
        Filip Radojevic  3 hours back

        I think you are wrong about this. Mental illness is not the first thing on the list that drives Arthur to become the Joker , it plays as the undercurrent of his miserable life and sets the stage for his transformation ... When his mother dies , Arthur she wanted him to be dies with her , and a new identity is born rooted not in denial of
        the harsh reality like the old Arthur , but in the very core of all his painful experience , emerges as a consequence a new mind uninhibited and criminaly insane...

        • Ms Pineapple
          Ms Pineapple  3 hours back

          To be honest couldn’t we just watch matpat as school lol

          • EdgierBean
            EdgierBean  4 hours back

            All the joker's have been diagnosed with a range of mental illnesses. But the one they all have in common is scitsophrenia. So... Yeah...

            • Ace Diamonds
              Ace Diamonds  5 hours back

              schrodingers king of comedy

              • luar perez
                luar perez  5 hours back

                matpat:joker is not really violent
                joker:am i a joke to you
                oh wait i am

                • Stefaa .27
                  Stefaa .27  8 hours back

                  If this theory is true then he spoiled the movie

                  • hatchettwit
                    hatchettwit  8 hours back

                    I think it would badass if it went down like this. I think you give modern movies too much credit.

                    • Alicia
                      Alicia  9 hours back

                      Could u do a theory of the Joker maybe being IT

                      • Georgie Pineda
                        Georgie Pineda  9 hours back

                        1. Arthur is a name used in the kiling joke comic, were he was a comedian. So there is a comic background.

                        2. Pseudobulbar affect, is more a neurological disorder than a psychiatric disorder which means that you can be mentaly healthy, no mood disorder, and have burst of laughter or crying that are not related to any enviromental stimulus with the latter (crying) being more frequent than the former (laughing).

                        3. It's not schizophrenia... not only we don't have enough information to say that but you took symtoms and signs then made them fit the diagnose without properly understanding those symtomes and signs (i.e. his dances, if pathological, could fit any of the detailed and studied movement disorder but you avoid explaining WHY and WHAT disorder it fits)

                        4. Yes, you can diagnose schizophrenia by observing a patient talk and write, but more than the handwritting, which matpat implies, it's the content the order of the words and the conjugation of the verbs (past-tense, regular, irregular) which if applied to Arthur would make his diary unreable or obviosly grammatically incorrect.

                        5. Delusions and hallusinations... Matpat mentions them but fails to describe what their psychiatric meaning is, how it is applies and how they differentiate from each other and from illusions or ideas of grandeur or even megalomania.

                        Yeah, i know it's a theory but it is really far fetched, not only that but it spreads misinformation of what schizophrenia really is and applying it to the joker will never explain his terrible acts. As a side note i won't theorize his diagnose without information which means that i will patiently wait for the movie and with all the pieces in sight i'll try to solve the joker's puzzle.

                        • Speedytyperman Answers
                          Speedytyperman Answers  10 hours back

                          sometimes I think people of film theorists channel are just bottom feeding scumbags, who instead of doing "Theories" just blatantly turning and twisting other people's work just so they can make a monetized video with millions of views to feed off their 14 year old audiences who won't even be bother to go watch/read/play/google the original source.

                          • Nuper In Nocte
                            Nuper In Nocte  10 hours back

                            Todd Phillips sounds like a name fit for the 6th Robin.

                            • waptek
                              waptek  11 hours back

                              4:50 we laugh to hide our SCREAMS!

                              • JAMCastillo1
                                JAMCastillo1  11 hours back

                                99k likes

                                • HiMyNameIs !!!!!!!!!
                                  HiMyNameIs !!!!!!!!!  12 hours back

                                  hi

                                  • John Jones
                                    John Jones  12 hours back

                                    Hmm, interesting...I wonder if the big reveal at the end is that he is imagining himself to be the Joker, not because he is the Joker, but because he knows about Joker from the comic books?

                                    • maya player1
                                      maya player1  13 hours back

                                      WOW

                                      • Brad Palato
                                        Brad Palato  14 hours back

                                        The director himself said that this movie had nothing to do with the actual joker

                                        • Dontplay Withme
                                          Dontplay Withme  15 hours back

                                          The joker fanesed chuckys laugh

                                          • Scott Galpin
                                            Scott Galpin  16 hours back

                                            Your an idiot

                                            • Jar Jar Binks
                                              Jar Jar Binks  16 hours back

                                              Mesa not mentally ill....

                                              • Timothy Kozlowski
                                                Timothy Kozlowski  17 hours back

                                                I'll watch their take on the Joker. No matter what you say

                                                • Anya
                                                  Anya  17 hours back

                                                  If this is what the joker movie will end up being. This will probably become one of my top favorite movies of all time. Aside from Amadeus and Silence of the Lambs.

                                                  • Jon Dani
                                                    Jon Dani  17 hours back

                                                    I hope you’re wrong. I want a relatable character. Someone growing and raising. Not some delusional person shuffling around around.

                                                    • Jam sandwiches
                                                      Jam sandwiches  18 hours back

                                                      Ya know how I got these scars

                                                      • Axess2084
                                                        Axess2084  17 hours back

                                                        If we don't deal with this now, soon, little, uh, Gambol (?) here won't be able to get a, a nickel for his grandma.

                                                    • Jim Rogers
                                                      Jim Rogers  18 hours back

                                                      I have a theory: Arthur is the guy who killed Bruce's parents

                                                      • Autumnz _Artz
                                                        Autumnz _Artz  18 hours back

                                                        That actually makes it better not only showing how Arthur behaves but what he experiences showing what his life is like in his eyes can help you understand what happened to him to me its a good idea but thats an opinion

                                                        • Homer J. Simpson
                                                          Homer J. Simpson  18 hours back

                                                          This isnt going to happen. Dc wouldnt cop out like this. Not at all.

                                                          • Amber Powell
                                                            Amber Powell  18 hours back

                                                            You seem to be right. The joker of then and who he wants to be and eventually becomes. How he came to be what he is in Gotham today.

                                                            • DAKOTA REAPER
                                                              DAKOTA REAPER  19 hours back

                                                              You don't want no beef.. *YoU dOnT wanT nO bEeF!!?!?!*

                                                              • ClumsyPlant
                                                                ClumsyPlant  19 hours back

                                                                Well I mean the joker has always kinda just been mentally unstable

                                                                • Derek Cornett
                                                                  Derek Cornett  19 hours back

                                                                  I was diagnosed with schizophrenia after being locked in a psychiatric unit for 2 weeks and I've avoided "medication" for 9 years... I seem to be doing fine :)

                                                                  • Homer J. Simpson
                                                                    Homer J. Simpson  18 hours back

                                                                    nah bro according to him half your life has to be in your head

                                                                • Skztg
                                                                  Skztg  20 hours back

                                                                  matpat you’ve done like 30 fnaf episodes we know what hallucinations are

                                                                  • RangerAgr
                                                                    RangerAgr  20 hours back

                                                                    One must imagine Arthur Fleck as happy.

                                                                    • random numbers 783
                                                                      random numbers 783  20 hours back

                                                                      Or it could be the other way round because the Joker's origin is to clear it has always been multiple choice

                                                                      • Dahn
                                                                        Dahn  22 hours back

                                                                        Jokeseph Jokestar

                                                                        • Piggy Drawz
                                                                          Piggy Drawz  22 hours back

                                                                          matpat, we better get a it chapter 2 theory

                                                                          • Reverse Fuhrer
                                                                            Reverse Fuhrer  22 hours back

                                                                            This video is bollocks. 🙄

                                                                            • BM PUNK
                                                                              BM PUNK  23 hours back

                                                                              🥴

                                                                              • Leroy Jenkins
                                                                                Leroy Jenkins  1 days back

                                                                                You got this whole movie twisted bruh. He is going to be tormented by other humans in such horrible, terrifying, and scarring ways. He will lose the attachment ability that normal humans possess. He will start giving 0 fucks and then Viola! Society will have successfully created the most notorious psychopath.

                                                                                • Mateja Ivanov
                                                                                  Mateja Ivanov  1 days back

                                                                                  There are great channels who show us more about the movies...
                                                                                  And there are channels like this. ( I am angry, you ruined the last 47 movies I wanted to watch )

                                                                                  • MarvelousBowski 314
                                                                                    MarvelousBowski 314  1 days back

                                                                                    Phoenix's The Joker 0% not the best anti-Villian that we know xd

                                                                                    • Nazir Osmani
                                                                                      Nazir Osmani  1 days back

                                                                                      Do a theory on human combustion from fire force anime

                                                                                      • YgPhaz
                                                                                        YgPhaz  1 days back

                                                                                        Man I hate the theory 'he woke up and it was all a dream' or 'it was all in his head'

                                                                                        • Dyslogix
                                                                                          Dyslogix  1 days back

                                                                                          Arthur.Fleck / Ben.Affleck / A.FFleck / A.Fleck ?

                                                                                          • Marckenz D
                                                                                            Marckenz D  1 days back

                                                                                            I thought that this would be one of the many origin stories the Joker makes up
                                                                                            in his head. One of the multiple choice ones. I definitely enjoyed this video.

                                                                                            • Randy Ciriaco
                                                                                              Randy Ciriaco  1 days back

                                                                                              We are all CLOWNS.